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The Fed Rate and Mortgage Rate – What Does This All Mean?

the fedFirst a little history.  The Federal Reserve System (commonly referred to as The Fed) is the central banking system of the US and is made up of 12 regional banks.  The Fed manages the nation's money supply via its use of monetary policy.  This refers to The Feds ability to influence the availability of money and credit which affects interest rates and therefore the economy

Are we good so far?  For our purposes here we are going to have a limited discussion and only touch upon one area of the monetary policies. 

Banks are required by The Fed to have a certain portion of the total value of their demand accounts on hand.  If a bank falls below this level, it can borrow the funds from another bank that has a surplus with The Fed.  These are typically overnight loans.  The interest rate on these borrowed moneyfunds is determined by the banks themselves but is influenced by The Fed via the Federal Funds Rate.  These are more closely aligned with short term interest rates.  This is the rate that we've been hearing so much about in the news.  It must be understand that this is a target rate set by The Fed.  The rate that is actually paid by one bank to another is negotiated between the two parties.  This has nothing to do with mortgage rates. 

Now we come to mortgage ratesThe Fed DOES NOT control mortgage rates.  Mortgage rates are market determined and are on the long term end of the interest rate spectrum.  These are generally determined by the bond market.  It's a financial market where debt securities are bought and sold.  And this brings us to Mortgage Backed Securities.  You may not have heard of these specifically, but you've most likely heard of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and to a lesser extent Ginnie Mae.  Basically what they do is package many mortgages together and issue them as MBS's.  In order to get investors to buy these, they must pay rates of interest that are competitive with alternative interest-paying investments such as Treasury bonds.  There is a correlation between mortgage rates and long term interest rates.  Long-term rates are governed by the overall health of the economy, and the expectations of future growth.

As you can see one is long term whereas the other is short term.  So when you hear that The Fed cut the rate, you can not always expect an equal and immediate change in the mortgage rate.  In fact, in many cases the opposite has occurred.

 

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Comments

Thanks Marc.  We seem to have a knee jerk reaction when we hear that the Fed lowered "the rate".  Many immediately expect mortage interest rates to come down accordingly.

Of course, it doesn't happen.  I have to chuckle when I hear one of the financial "experts" discuss the Fed rate in connection with mortgage rates. 

Fact is, lately, it's almost impossible to connect the present day mortgage rate to the Fed action.  Now, what's going to happen if MBIA gets their rating reduced. 

Care to speculate on that domino. 

Good information.  Thanks for posting financial stuff that we can understand. 

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker, Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) over 4 years ago
Lenn - Thank you very much.  The thought of MBIA getting their rating reduced is quite scary.  As you gathered there will be a domino effect that will affect many.  But I do expect this to happen.  With that I expect risk factors to go up and obviously mortgage rates as well.  So they're trying to sell 1B in stock to try to keep their rating.  Let's see who's going to buy that.  Oh, I know, the banks.  Because if MBIA loses their rating, then there will be more writedowns for the banks.  The scarier part is that I possibly see more gov't intervention.  Just went to their site.  Love their logo 'Wisdom in Action.'  Ouch!
Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 4 years ago

Marc...  what an excellent explanation that so many fail to understand.  I am going to add this to this blog post. Mortgage Interest Rates - Up or Down?   I think it's a great ending to a somewhat confusing issue. And in regards one of Lenn's comment, I often cringe when a financial expert on tv mentions both Fed Rates and Interest Rates within a 2 minute period. Especially when they don't break down the difference. Hence, leaving the average consumer more confused or assuming that one follows the other. And I am flagging this, because I think this is a worthy feature. 

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Posted by Jeff Belonger-The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans ( Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) over 4 years ago

Jeff - Thanks for your comment and adding that link.  And I see that I got flagged, that's very kind of you to suggest such.  I tried to make this as simple as possible without giving too much information to confuse the matter or too little to not understand it.  I gather by yours and Lenn's comments that I've succeeded. 

In regard to the media, I agree with both Lenn & yourself.  But the problem that I see is that the people reporting do not have a good enough grasp of the subject matter to properly write about it and that's where the confusion comes from.  Like with anything else either you educate yourself prior to saying something or keep your mouth shut if you don't know.  Unfortunately, too many people have diarrhea of the mouth.  I guess they can say that about my writing - Oh Well!

Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 4 years ago
Thanks for writing this post.  This is a very good one that I really enjoyed reading. Just because Fed drop interest rates don't necessarily mean mortgage rates are going to drop. Great post.
Posted by Lanre "The Real Estate Farmer"Folayan Buy a home in Washington DC (EXIT Advance Realty-Washington DC House for sale) over 4 years ago

Marc...

I have had a very long hard physical labor kind of day. I'm pooped. In fact I do believe I'm too pooped to pop :)

If it's okay with you I am going to park until tomorrow.

Thank you for not charging me the going rate on parked comments :)

TLW...ROAR!

Posted by "The Lovely Wife" (Broker Bryant's Wife) The One And Only TLW. (President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc.) over 4 years ago

Marc,

Nice explan ation.  We all get optimistic when the Fed cuts rates --Just wish it was that easy.

Posted by Diane Bell, Hilton Head Real Estate, Bluffton (Charter 1 Real Estate, Hilton Head, Bluffton, SC) over 4 years ago

Lanre - Thank you very much.  In fact many times the mortgage rates have done the opposite of what the fed funds rate did.

TLW - You can park and/or hijack anytime your wish.  Your visiting is more than enough.

Diane - So do I, but...

Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 4 years ago
Hi Marc, Thanks for a well written easy to understand explanation of how interest rates are determined.  Very worthy of a Feature & a bookmark too. :)
Posted by Lola Audu~Audu Real Estate~Grand Rapids, MI Real Estate over 4 years ago
Great job explaining the the Fed RAte and Mortgage Rate. 
Posted by Jimmy McCall "The Ex-Mortgage Consultant" (TheHappyCottage.com) over 4 years ago
Well done, Marc.  Easily digestible information for a complex subject is rare.  This will make sense to the man on the street, which, ultimately, is all that really matters.  Bravo.
Posted by Paul Slaybaugh, Scottsdale AZ Real Estate (Realty Executives) over 4 years ago
Marc- Great explanation. When the Fed cuts their rates, it adversely affects the bond market at times and therefore mortgage rates increase. Does this sum it up?
Posted by Mark Horan "The Resident Chef" (Resident Team Realty, LLC) over 4 years ago

Great post, and a great explanation to something even many in the mortgage industry don't get. 

As far as the monolines like MBIA and ABK getting ratings cut, it's gonna happen, even the ratings agencies such as Moody's have said unequivocally it's coming and a capital raise won't stop it.  I think they're doing there best to give lots of warning ahead of time, in hopes the market will adjust (which it isn't) and lessen the impact.  They cut a couple of the smaller credit insurers such as SCA this week, a warm up.  The effect is likely going to be very wide reaching, and it's hard to even speculate on it's extent at this point. 

I don't see successful government intervention here, but I do expect it in the case of the largest mortgage insures, Freddie, Fannie and Ginnie.

Posted by Matt Heaton (Timu Corp - CEO, ActiveRain - Co-founder) over 4 years ago

Lola - Thank you very much and glad that I could assist.

Jimmy - Thank you.

Paul - That was my point.  I plan on using this post in my next newsletter.

Mark - Very good and this is sometimes true as it was with the 75 basis point cut in January in which mortgage rates actually rose 50 basis.

Matt - I didn't think that would stop the cuts either - the raising of capital.  I do appreciate your knowledge and input.  I do see where you are coming from as to the gov't intervention.  I'm just thinking here and it boggles the mind what's going to happen when MBIA and their ilk get their rates cut.  It's not even going to be a ripple effect, there are going to be some major dominos.  The banks, the investors, the markets - Geez!

Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 4 years ago
Thanks for do a very good job of explaing this. I think many of us had some ideas but not all the details.
Posted by Richard Lecinski (Long Realty Company) over 4 years ago

Marc, great post.  I know everybody here was asked the question when the feds lowered the interest rate 2 weeks ago, are mortgage rates going to drop.  I too was one of those that didnt understand what affects does the fed cutting the rate have to do with mortgage rates.  One thing is for sure that i knew that the mortgage rates were not in line with the feds rates.  I will be adding this to my favorites.  I have a clear understanding of whats going on now..

Posted by Freddie Castaneda San Jacinto Valley Real Estate (Beechwood Realty) over 4 years ago
Thanks Marc. That was a very good explaination of the relationship of the FED rate to mortgage rates.
Posted by Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Wayne B. Pruner, Realtor, GRI (Oregon First) over 4 years ago
Marc, thank you, thank you, thank you, for explaining so well something that I SHOULD understand but don't...I just glaze over sometimes and this was straight forward, to the point and understandable even by me :)
Posted by Lisa Heindel, New Orleans Real Estate Broker (Crescent City Living LLC) over 4 years ago

Marc,

 

Thanks sooo much for this great insite!!!

I want to copy it into my presentation portfolio, if that's ok!!!! (credit to you, of course!!)

Bernie

Posted by Juli Morella (Weichert Realtors) over 4 years ago
Thanks for posting a concise and right on explanation of what these rates are.  So many people including those in the industry just don't understand how all this comes together.
Posted by Rob Arnold, metro Orlando full service, investor friendly & foreclosure Realtor (Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc.) over 4 years ago
MARC - You did a great job of explaining this in very simple terms.  People should realize that the only benefit that is directly derived from short term interest rate cuts are those for home equity lines of credit, credit cards and some auto loans.  I'm glad that this got featured!  Great post.
Posted by Adam Waldman - Long Island REALTOR® (Westcott Group Real Estate Company) over 4 years ago
Marc, I've seen other posts on this (and posted one myself), but it bears repeating. And, truth be told, you said it better than I did. :) Thanks for banging that drum.
Posted by Joey Aszterbaum (Jolynne Photography) over 4 years ago
Very true, there is always a lot of confusion regarding the relationship between mortgage rates and the fed funds rate.....
Posted by Trace Richardson (LeadPress.com) over 4 years ago
Marc, thanks for sharing, great info that is all to often misunderstood.
Posted by Brian @Connect Video Tours (Connect Video Tours) over 4 years ago

Thanks Marc,

Now can you please explain this to my Canadian relatives.

 

John Hurbon

Tierra Antigua Realty

Benson Horse Property 

 I LOVE LONGWOOD FLORIDA ----------------

 

Posted by John Hurbon Benson Arizona over 4 years ago
That was a wonderful post. You broke it down great. I definitely need to brush up more on the Fed and such.
Posted by Christy Powers - Pooler, Savannah Real Estate Agent (Keller Williams Coastal Area Partners) over 4 years ago

Fantastic Mr. Grossman!  SOMEBODY should post this in a major media publication and put it on the first page...right beside all the other Mortgage News going around.  Well studied and well put man, you taught me a little bit of something....

Belonger was right in flagging this, wonderful 'freaking' article.  We really could structure a College Course around this very entry into the Blogosphere.  Yet, I'm sure you are like me...why wait for College?  Good work Mr. Marc!

Posted by Jason Sardi (I love kittens cute & My Jennifer!!) over 4 years ago
Congratulations on the feature post Marc!smileysVery well done post as always!
Posted by BLRGUY(Beach & Luxury Realty Inc) over 4 years ago
Marc, The Feature Star really looks good on you. You really deserve it. This post really explains it very nicely.
Posted by Matthew J Blum - (retired from the business) over 4 years ago

Richard - And it's not as complicated as some may think either.

Freddie - Glad this helped you.

Wayne - Thanks, but people needed to really know that there isn't a relationship between the two.

Lisa - What this 'even by me' crap.  I don't believe that for a minute. 

Bernie - Go for it.  I hope that it'll help.

Rob - Thank you, but I think it's important for all of us to know this info.  As realtors we need to understand these concepts and how they relate to our industry.

Adam - You are exactly correct and thank you very much.

Joey - Thank you for that compliment.  I tried to keep it simple and concise.  Bang away.

Trace - And it's all of our jobs to understand the difference.  How else can we explain it to others.

Brian - Thank you kindly.

John - I could try...  Glad you like my neck of the woods.

Christy - It's so very important and quite interesting.  Thank you.

Jason - Thank you, thank you, thank you.  I humbly bow before you!

BLR Guy - Thank you.

Matt - Thanks, that's so kind of you.

Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 4 years ago

Great job explaining the the Fed RAte and Mortgage Rate.

 Robert Walton
Loan Officer
Flagstar Bank
704-671-8670
http://www.flagstarloans.com/rwalton

Building relationships that last.

Posted by Delete Acct (delete acct) over 4 years ago
Robert,  Thank you very much, but you should alter your signature.  I don't think it abides by the AR rules.
Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 4 years ago
Good explanation - thanks!
Posted by Emily Lowe - Nashville TN Realtor (The Lipman Group Sotheby's International Realty) over 4 years ago
Good information. Quite a bit to take in all at once. Thank you.
Posted by Robert L. Brown~Grand Rapids Real Estate Bellabay Realty, West Michigan (www.mrbrownsellsgr.com) over 4 years ago

Emily - Glad you enjoyed.

Robert - Thanks.  The links should also help to possibly better understand how all this works.

Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 4 years ago
Marc:  Great post... like Lenn said, we'll have to wait to see what happens with MBIA.  
Posted by Jan Wood (None) over 4 years ago
Jan - I agree, but it's not going to be a pretty sight.  And goodness knows what kind of fallout we are going to see from that.
Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 4 years ago

Marc,

Congratulations on the feature.  Well explained!

Mike in Tucson

Posted by Mike Jones (SUNSTREET MORTGAGE, LLC) about 4 years ago
Mike - I appreciate that coming from you.
Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) about 4 years ago
I'm glad someone understands how things work and I'm especially happy that even the common man can understand your explaination. Great job! Thankls! 
Posted by Jeff about 4 years ago

Marc,

Great post... I'm printing this out and giving it to my customers that asked about rate adjustments and the fed cuts rates... real pro job... thank you...

Rick

Posted by Cherry Creek Mortgage about 4 years ago

Marc,

This is awesome detail!  Thank you for setting the record straight.

Posted by Sherri Sherpy, NMLS #287770 (iLoan) about 4 years ago

Jeff - Glad this could be of assistance to you.  Thanks for the compliment

Rick - Be my guest and thank you.

Sherri - I felt that it had to be done.  I realized that not only is it confusing to the general public that also realtors are confused as well.  This is something that we should know to be able to properly assist our clients.

Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) about 4 years ago
Allow me to chime in here and say that it's good to have someone else agree with what is correct and true!
Posted by Matthew Rosov, Certified Mortgage Planning Specialist (Amerisave Mortgage Corporation) about 4 years ago

Excellent explanation of the Fed rate and interest rates!

Posted by Jonas Kruckeberg - Temecula Murrieta Mortgage (First Priority Financial - Temecula Murrieta Mortgage ) almost 4 years ago

Jonas - Thank you very much!!

Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) almost 4 years ago

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